Engines are fascinating. Thanks to the internet, most data is available also. So I wanted to see some more characteristics of VW engines and see how they compare against other well known aircraft engines.
The table below shows lots of different engines with some basic characteristics.
The modified bore/stroke = A^3/V^2 = (Pi/4)*bore^2/stroke^2
With this modified bore/stroke ratio, all the engines can be compared on equal basis. This is not a bore stroke ratio anymore, just a representative non dimensional number. This is done in the table below.
The M14PF is the longest stroked engine and the UL260s are the shortest stroked engines. Interestingly the VW engines are all over the place.
The second relation shows that BMEP is proportional to torque per displacement.
All the two stroke engines have low BMEP. The reason for this is they don't need to have all that much pressure because they have double the power pulses per revs compared with a 4 stroke. At the other end we find the RR Griffon and the P&W R-2800. Also here the VW engines are all over the place, but now there is a clear differentiation between the GP and Hummel engines in the lower end and the Sauer and Limbachs in the higher end. The AeroVee and Revmaster is in the middle somewhere. The AeroVee turbo, rumored to have 100 HP for take off and 80 HP continuous, have less BMEP than a comparable naturally aspirated Limbach 2400 DFi. Suggesting the turbo boost is very low. Also interesting is the ULPower UL350i which sits there at the lower end of the scale along the Hummels and GPs. Sadly the specs for the 2 stroke diesels, the Wilksch WAM and DeltaHawk is nowhere to be found, they would be interesting to see in there.
Engines and stuff part 2
The table below shows lots of different engines with some basic characteristics.
Engine | Max HP | at RPM | T (Nm) | Weight (kg) | Cooling | Bore (mm) | Stroke (mm) | Bore/ stroke | cc | Cyl | BMEP (bar) | HP/kg | X | st |
AeroVee 2.1 | 80 | 3400 | 167.6 | 73 | Air | 92 | 82 | 0.99 | 2180 | 4 | 9.66 | 1.10 | 1.13 | 4 |
AeroVee 2.1 T | 100 | 3400 | 209.4 | 80 | Air | 92 | 82 | 0.99 | 2180 | 4 | 12.07 | 1.25 | 1.04 | 4 |
Austro AE300 | 168 | 3880 | 308.3 | 185 | Water | 83 | 92 | 0.64 | 1991 | 4 | 19.46 | 0.91 | 0.47 | 4 |
Centurion 2.0 | 133 | 3890 | 243.5 | 134 | Water | 83 | 92 | 0.64 | 1991 | 4 | 15.37 | 0.99 | 0.65 | 4 |
Continental 200AF | 95 | 2750 | 246.0 | 91 | Air | 103.1 | 98.6 | 0.86 | 3293 | 4 | 9.39 | 1.04 | 1.11 | 4 |
Continental 200DX | 100 | 2750 | 258.9 | 91 | Air | 103.1 | 98.6 | 0.86 | 3293 | 4 | 9.88 | 1.10 | 1.11 | 4 |
Continental 240 | 125 | 2800 | 317.9 | 109 | Air | 112.8 | 98.6 | 1.03 | 3941 | 4 | 10.14 | 1.15 | 1.13 | 4 |
Continental IO-360ES | 210 | 2800 | 534.1 | 138 | Air | 112.8 | 98.6 | 1.03 | 5912 | 6 | 11.35 | 1.52 | 1.34 | 4 |
D-Motor LF26 | 91.8 | 3000 | 217.9 | 58 | Water | 103.4 | 80 | 1.31 | 2687 | 4 | 10.19 | 1.58 | 1.55 | 4 |
DB 605 | 1800 | 2800 | 4577.7 | 756 | Water | 154 | 160 | 0.73 | 35763 | 12 | 16.09 | 2.38 | 1.48 | 4 |
Franklin 235 | 125 | 2800 | 317.9 | 93 | Air | 117.5 | 88.9 | 1.37 | 3856 | 4 | 10.36 | 1.34 | 1.30 | 4 |
Franklin 350 | 205 | 2800 | 521.4 | 135 | Air | 117.5 | 88.9 | 1.37 | 5784 | 6 | 11.33 | 1.52 | 1.34 | 4 |
GP 1600 | 55 | 3600 | 108.8 | 72 | Air | 85.5 | 69 | 1.21 | 1585 | 4 | 8.63 | 0.76 | 0.89 | 4 |
GP 1835 | 65 | 3600 | 128.6 | 74 | Air | 92 | 69 | 1.40 | 1835 | 4 | 8.81 | 0.88 | 1.00 | 4 |
GP 1915 | 69 | 3600 | 136.5 | 74 | Air | 94 | 69 | 1.46 | 1915 | 4 | 8.95 | 0.93 | 1.04 | 4 |
GP 2180 | 76 | 3400 | 159.2 | 75 | Air | 92 | 82 | 0.99 | 2180 | 4 | 9.17 | 1.01 | 1.10 | 4 |
GP 2276 | 80 | 3400 | 167.6 | 75 | Air | 94 | 82 | 1.03 | 2276 | 4 | 9.25 | 1.07 | 1.15 | 4 |
Grob 2500 | 95 | 3400 | 199.0 | 95 | Air | 100 | 78 | 1.29 | 2450 | 4 | 10.20 | 1.00 | 0.98 | 4 |
Hirth 3003 E | 102 | 6500 | 111.7 | 51 | Air | 72 | 64 | 0.99 | 1042 | 4 | 6.74 | 2.00 | 2.97 | 2 |
Hirth 3203 E | 65 | 6300 | 73.5 | 40 | Air | 76 | 69 | 0.95 | 626 | 2 | 7.37 | 1.63 | 2.20 | 2 |
Hirth 3701 ES | 100 | 6000 | 118.7 | 54 | Water | 76 | 69 | 0.95 | 939 | 3 | 7.94 | 1.85 | 2.33 | 2 |
Hirth F23 LW | 50 | 6500 | 54.8 | 30 | Air | 72 | 64 | 0.99 | 521 | 2 | 6.60 | 1.67 | 2.52 | 2 |
HKS 700E | 60 | 6200 | 68.9 | 55 | Air | 85 | 60 | 1.58 | 681 | 2 | 12.72 | 1.09 | 0.86 | 4 |
Hummel 50 HP | 55 | 3600 | 108.8 | 73 | Air | 85.5 | 69 | 1.21 | 1585 | 4 | 8.63 | 0.75 | 0.87 | 4 |
Hummel 60 HP | 65 | 3600 | 128.6 | 75 | Air | 92 | 69 | 1.40 | 1835 | 4 | 8.81 | 0.87 | 0.98 | 4 |
Hummel 76 HP | 76 | 3400 | 159.2 | 76 | Air | 92 | 82 | 0.99 | 2180 | 4 | 9.17 | 1.00 | 1.09 | 4 |
Hummel 85 HP | 85 | 3400 | 178.0 | 76 | Air | 94 | 86 | 0.94 | 2387 | 4 | 9.37 | 1.12 | 1.19 | 4 |
Jabiru 2200 | 85 | 3300 | 183.4 | 63 | Air | 97.5 | 74 | 1.36 | 2210 | 4 | 10.43 | 1.35 | 1.29 | 4 |
Jabiru 3300 | 120 | 3300 | 258.9 | 83.5 | Air | 97.5 | 74 | 1.36 | 3315 | 6 | 9.82 | 1.44 | 1.46 | 4 |
JPX 4T60 | 65 | 3200 | 144.6 | 72 | Air | 93 | 75.4 | 1.19 | 2049 | 4 | 8.87 | 0.90 | 1.02 | 4 |
JPX 4TX75 | 82 | 3000 | 194.6 | 78 | Air | 95 | 82 | 1.05 | 2325 | 4 | 10.52 | 1.05 | 1.00 | 4 |
JPX 4TX90 | 90 | 3000 | 213.6 | 74 | Air | 95 | 88 | 0.92 | 2495 | 4 | 10.76 | 1.22 | 1.13 | 4 |
Jumo 213E | 2050 | 3250 | 4491.7 | 940 | Water | 150 | 165 | 0.65 | 34989 | 12 | 16.13 | 2.18 | 1.35 | 4 |
Limbach 1700 E0 | 68 | 3600 | 134.5 | 73 | Air | 88 | 69 | 1.28 | 1679 | 4 | 10.07 | 0.93 | 0.93 | 4 |
Limbach 2000 E0 | 80 | 3400 | 167.6 | 74 | Air | 90 | 78.4 | 1.04 | 1995 | 4 | 10.55 | 1.08 | 1.02 | 4 |
Limbach 2000 EB | 80 | 3400 | 167.6 | 76.5 | Air | 90 | 78.4 | 1.04 | 1995 | 4 | 10.55 | 1.05 | 0.99 | 4 |
Limbach 2400 DFi | 100 | 3000 | 237.4 | 76 | Water | 97 | 82 | 1.10 | 2424 | 4 | 12.31 | 1.32 | 1.07 | 4 |
Limbach 2400 DT | 129 | 3000 | 306.2 | 86 | Water | 97 | 82 | 1.10 | 2424 | 4 | 15.87 | 1.50 | 0.94 | 4 |
Limbach 2400 DT.X | 158 | 3000 | 375.0 | 86 | Water | 97 | 82 | 1.10 | 2424 | 4 | 19.44 | 1.84 | 0.94 | 4 |
Limbach 2400 EB | 87 | 3200 | 193.6 | 82 | Air | 97 | 82 | 1.10 | 2424 | 4 | 10.04 | 1.06 | 1.06 | 4 |
Lycoming 233 | 115 | 2800 | 292.5 | 97 | Air | 111.1 | 98.4 | 1.00 | 3816 | 4 | 9.63 | 1.19 | 1.23 | 4 |
Lycoming 320A | 150 | 2700 | 395.6 | 125 | Air | 130.2 | 98.4 | 1.38 | 5240 | 4 | 9.49 | 1.20 | 1.26 | 4 |
Lycoming 320B | 160 | 2700 | 422.0 | 127 | Air | 130.2 | 98.4 | 1.38 | 5240 | 4 | 10.12 | 1.26 | 1.25 | 4 |
Lycoming AEIO 360 | 200 | 2700 | 527.5 | 136 | Air | 130.2 | 111.1 | 1.08 | 5917 | 4 | 11.20 | 1.47 | 1.31 | 4 |
Lycoming AEIO 580 | 315 | 2700 | 830.8 | 204 | Air | 135 | 111.1 | 1.16 | 9542 | 6 | 10.94 | 1.54 | 1.41 | 4 |
Lycoming IO-360A | 200 | 2700 | 527.5 | 150 | Air | 130.2 | 111.1 | 1.08 | 5917 | 4 | 11.20 | 1.33 | 1.19 | 4 |
Lycoming O-360A | 180 | 2700 | 474.7 | 132 | Air | 130.2 | 111.1 | 1.08 | 5917 | 4 | 10.08 | 1.36 | 1.35 | 4 |
Mikron IIIA | 65 | 2600 | 178.0 | 65 | Air | 90 | 90 | 0.79 | 2290 | 4 | 9.77 | 1.00 | 1.02 | 4 |
Mikron IIIB | 75 | 2750 | 194.2 | 69 | Air | 90 | 96 | 0.69 | 2443 | 4 | 9.99 | 1.09 | 1.09 | 4 |
Motorav 2.4 R | 85 | 2900 | 208.7 | 85 | Air | 94 | 88 | 0.90 | 2443 | 4 | 10.74 | 1.00 | 0.93 | 4 |
Motorav 2.6 R | 90 | 2900 | 221.0 | 86 | Air | 94 | 94 | 0.79 | 2609 | 4 | 10.64 | 1.05 | 0.98 | 4 |
Motorav 2.8 R | 100 | 2900 | 245.5 | 84 | Air | 98 | 94 | 0.85 | 2836 | 4 | 10.88 | 1.19 | 1.09 | 4 |
MW B22D | 95 | 3400 | 199.0 | 80 | Water | 93 | 81 | 1.04 | 2201 | 4 | 11.36 | 1.19 | 1.05 | 4 |
P&W R-2800 32 | 2850 | 2700 | 7516.5 | 1073 | Air | 146.05 | 152.4 | 0.72 | 45957 | 18 | 20.55 | 2.66 | 1.29 | 4 |
Revmaster R-2300 | 85 | 3200 | 189.1 | 77 | Air | 94 | 84 | 0.98 | 2332 | 4 | 10.19 | 1.10 | 1.08 | 4 |
Revmaster R-3000 | 115 | 3400 | 240.9 | 93 | Air | 102.4 | 90 | 1.02 | 2965 | 4 | 10.21 | 1.24 | 1.21 | 4 |
Rotax 912 ULS | 98.5 | 5800 | 120.9 | 70 | Water | 84 | 61 | 1.49 | 1352 | 4 | 11.24 | 1.41 | 1.25 | 4 |
Rotec R2800 | 110 | 3600 | 217.6 | 102 | Air | 80 | 80 | 0.79 | 2815 | 7 | 9.71 | 1.08 | 1.11 | 4 |
Rotec R2800 | 150 | 3600 | 296.7 | 125 | Air | 80 | 80 | 0.79 | 3619 | 9 | 10.30 | 1.20 | 1.16 | 4 |
RR Griffon 65 | 2220 | 2750 | 5748.5 | 900 | Water | 152.5 | 167.6 | 0.65 | 36735 | 12 | 19.66 | 2.47 | 1.25 | 4 |
RR Merlin 61 | 1580 | 3000 | 3750.3 | 744 | Water | 137 | 152 | 0.64 | 26888 | 12 | 17.53 | 2.12 | 1.21 | 4 |
Sauer 1800 UL | 68 | 3200 | 151.3 | 63 | Air | 92 | 69 | 1.40 | 1835 | 4 | 10.36 | 1.08 | 1.04 | 4 |
Sauer 1900 UL | 75 | 3200 | 166.9 | 64 | Air | 94 | 69 | 1.46 | 1915 | 4 | 10.95 | 1.17 | 1.07 | 4 |
Sauer 2100 ULT | 110 | 3000 | 261.1 | 76 | Air | 90.5 | 84 | 0.91 | 2161 | 4 | 15.18 | 1.45 | 0.95 | 4 |
Sauer 2200 UL | 85 | 3000 | 201.8 | 66 | Air | 92 | 84 | 0.94 | 2234 | 4 | 11.35 | 1.29 | 1.13 | 4 |
Sauer 2400 UL Al | 90 | 3000 | 213.6 | 75 | Air | 94 | 84 | 0.98 | 2332 | 4 | 11.51 | 1.20 | 1.04 | 4 |
Sauer 2400 UL Mg | 90 | 3000 | 213.6 | 68 | Air | 94 | 84 | 0.98 | 2332 | 4 | 11.51 | 1.32 | 1.15 | 4 |
Sauer 2500 | 94 | 3000 | 223.1 | 77 | Air | 97 | 84 | 1.05 | 2483 | 4 | 11.29 | 1.22 | 1.08 | 4 |
Sauer 2700 UL | 105 | 3000 | 249.2 | 75 | Air | 97 | 90 | 0.91 | 2660 | 4 | 11.77 | 1.40 | 1.19 | 4 |
SMA SR305 | 227 | 2200 | 734.7 | 206 | Air | NA | NA | NA | 5000 | 4 | 18.47 | 1.10 | 0.60 | 4 |
ULPower UL260i | 97 | 3300 | 209.3 | 72.3 | Air | 105.6 | 74 | 1.60 | 2592 | 4 | 10.15 | 1.34 | 1.32 | 4 |
ULPower UL260iS | 107 | 3300 | 230.9 | 72.3 | Air | 105.6 | 74 | 1.60 | 2592 | 4 | 11.19 | 1.48 | 1.32 | 4 |
ULPower UL350i | 118 | 3300 | 254.6 | 78.4 | Air | 105.6 | 100 | 0.88 | 3503 | 4 | 9.13 | 1.51 | 1.65 | 4 |
ULPower UL350iS | 130 | 3300 | 280.5 | 78.4 | Air | 105.6 | 100 | 0.88 | 3503 | 4 | 10.06 | 1.66 | 1.65 | 4 |
Vedeneyev M14PF | 400 | 2900 | 982.2 | 214 | Air | 105 | 130 | 0.51 | 10131 | 9 | 12.18 | 1.87 | 1.53 | 4 |
Verner 133MK | 84 | 5500 | 108.8 | 64.9 | Air | 97 | 90 | 0.91 | 1330 | 2 | 10.27 | 1.29 | 1.26 | 4 |
Verner 7H | 110 | 2300 | 340.6 | 82 | Air | 94 | 85 | 0.96 | 4129 | 7 | 10.36 | 1.34 | 1.29 | 4 |
Bore - Stroke ratio
I somehow had the impression that the bore/stroke ratio was an important parameter. Engines with longer stroke had more torque, while engines with shorter stroke had less torque and more rpm. This was completely wrong.
An engine with a large bore has more area or space for valves than an engine with small bore. This means that with larger bore/stroke, the engine can have larger valves and therefore will more easily be filled with air. That is basically it, that is the only important factor. The torque of the crank does not change with larger stroke (considering equal displacement). There also are some secondary effects; larger stroke means faster piston speed and more friction, larger bore means more forces on the cylinder and the bearings etc etc. Things that are important for detailed design, but does not really mean anything if the design is done properly.
The bore/stroke ratio is only valid for comparison of engines with equal displacement because the area is proportional to the square of the bore. To compare engines with different displacement some modification is needed. What we are looking for is a ratio of the area (available for valves) over the volume of the cylinder, the displacement. To be able to compare different sized engines, this ratio has to be non dimensional.
The modified bore/stroke = A^3/V^2 = (Pi/4)*bore^2/stroke^2
With this modified bore/stroke ratio, all the engines can be compared on equal basis. This is not a bore stroke ratio anymore, just a representative non dimensional number. This is done in the table below.
Engine | Max HP | at RPM | T (Nm) | Weight (kg) | Cooling | Bore (mm) | Stroke (mm) | Bore/ stroke | cc | Cyl | BMEP (bar) | HP/kg | X | st |
Vedeneyev M14PF | 400 | 2900 | 982.2 | 214 | Air | 105 | 130 | 0.51 | 10131 | 9 | 12.18 | 1.87 | 1.53 | 4 |
RR Merlin 61 | 1580 | 3000 | 3750.3 | 744 | Water | 137 | 152 | 0.64 | 26888 | 12 | 17.53 | 2.12 | 1.21 | 4 |
Austro AE300 | 168 | 3880 | 308.3 | 185 | Water | 83 | 92 | 0.64 | 1991 | 4 | 19.46 | 0.91 | 0.47 | 4 |
Centurion 2.0 | 133 | 3890 | 243.5 | 134 | Water | 83 | 92 | 0.64 | 1991 | 4 | 15.37 | 0.99 | 0.65 | 4 |
Jumo 213E | 2050 | 3250 | 4491.7 | 940 | Water | 150 | 165 | 0.65 | 34989 | 12 | 16.13 | 2.18 | 1.35 | 4 |
RR Griffon 65 | 2220 | 2750 | 5748.5 | 900 | Water | 152.5 | 167.6 | 0.65 | 36735 | 12 | 19.66 | 2.47 | 1.25 | 4 |
Mikron IIIB | 75 | 2750 | 194.2 | 69 | Air | 90 | 96 | 0.69 | 2443 | 4 | 9.99 | 1.09 | 1.09 | 4 |
P&W R-2800 32 | 2850 | 2700 | 7516.5 | 1073 | Air | 146.05 | 152.4 | 0.72 | 45957 | 18 | 20.55 | 2.66 | 1.29 | 4 |
DB 605 | 1800 | 2800 | 4577.7 | 756 | Water | 154 | 160 | 0.73 | 35763 | 12 | 16.09 | 2.38 | 1.48 | 4 |
Mikron IIIA | 65 | 2600 | 178.0 | 65 | Air | 90 | 90 | 0.79 | 2290 | 4 | 9.77 | 1.00 | 1.02 | 4 |
Motorav 2.6 R | 90 | 2900 | 221.0 | 86 | Air | 94 | 94 | 0.79 | 2609 | 4 | 10.64 | 1.05 | 0.98 | 4 |
Rotec R2800 | 110 | 3600 | 217.6 | 102 | Air | 80 | 80 | 0.79 | 2815 | 7 | 9.71 | 1.08 | 1.11 | 4 |
Rotec R2800 | 150 | 3600 | 296.7 | 125 | Air | 80 | 80 | 0.79 | 3619 | 9 | 10.30 | 1.20 | 1.16 | 4 |
Motorav 2.8 R | 100 | 2900 | 245.5 | 84 | Air | 98 | 94 | 0.85 | 2836 | 4 | 10.88 | 1.19 | 1.09 | 4 |
Continental 200AF | 95 | 2750 | 246.0 | 91 | Air | 103.1 | 98.6 | 0.86 | 3293 | 4 | 9.39 | 1.04 | 1.11 | 4 |
Continental 200DX | 100 | 2750 | 258.9 | 91 | Air | 103.1 | 98.6 | 0.86 | 3293 | 4 | 9.88 | 1.10 | 1.11 | 4 |
ULPower UL350i | 118 | 3300 | 254.6 | 78.4 | Air | 105.6 | 100 | 0.88 | 3503 | 4 | 9.13 | 1.51 | 1.65 | 4 |
ULPower UL350iS | 130 | 3300 | 280.5 | 78.4 | Air | 105.6 | 100 | 0.88 | 3503 | 4 | 10.06 | 1.66 | 1.65 | 4 |
Motorav 2.4 R | 85 | 2900 | 208.7 | 85 | Air | 94 | 88 | 0.90 | 2443 | 4 | 10.74 | 1.00 | 0.93 | 4 |
Sauer 2100 ULT | 110 | 3000 | 261.1 | 76 | Air | 90.5 | 84 | 0.91 | 2161 | 4 | 15.18 | 1.45 | 0.95 | 4 |
Sauer 2700 UL | 105 | 3000 | 249.2 | 75 | Air | 97 | 90 | 0.91 | 2660 | 4 | 11.77 | 1.40 | 1.19 | 4 |
Verner 133MK | 84 | 5500 | 108.8 | 64.9 | Air | 97 | 90 | 0.91 | 1330 | 2 | 10.27 | 1.29 | 1.26 | 4 |
JPX 4TX90 | 90 | 3000 | 213.6 | 74 | Air | 95 | 88 | 0.92 | 2495 | 4 | 10.76 | 1.22 | 1.13 | 4 |
Hummel 85 HP | 85 | 3400 | 178.0 | 76 | Air | 94 | 86 | 0.94 | 2387 | 4 | 9.37 | 1.12 | 1.19 | 4 |
Sauer 2200 UL | 85 | 3000 | 201.8 | 66 | Air | 92 | 84 | 0.94 | 2234 | 4 | 11.35 | 1.29 | 1.13 | 4 |
Hirth 3203 E | 65 | 6300 | 73.5 | 40 | Air | 76 | 69 | 0.95 | 626 | 2 | 7.37 | 1.63 | 2.20 | 2 |
Hirth 3701 ES | 100 | 6000 | 118.7 | 54 | Water | 76 | 69 | 0.95 | 939 | 3 | 7.94 | 1.85 | 2.33 | 2 |
Verner 7H | 110 | 2300 | 340.6 | 82 | Air | 94 | 85 | 0.96 | 4129 | 7 | 10.36 | 1.34 | 1.29 | 4 |
Revmaster R-2300 | 85 | 3200 | 189.1 | 77 | Air | 94 | 84 | 0.98 | 2332 | 4 | 10.19 | 1.10 | 1.08 | 4 |
Sauer 2400 UL Al | 90 | 3000 | 213.6 | 75 | Air | 94 | 84 | 0.98 | 2332 | 4 | 11.51 | 1.20 | 1.04 | 4 |
Sauer 2400 UL Mg | 90 | 3000 | 213.6 | 68 | Air | 94 | 84 | 0.98 | 2332 | 4 | 11.51 | 1.32 | 1.15 | 4 |
AeroVee 2.1 | 80 | 3400 | 167.6 | 73 | Air | 92 | 82 | 0.99 | 2180 | 4 | 9.66 | 1.10 | 1.13 | 4 |
AeroVee 2.1 T | 100 | 3400 | 209.4 | 80 | Air | 92 | 82 | 0.99 | 2180 | 4 | 12.07 | 1.25 | 1.04 | 4 |
GP 2180 | 76 | 3400 | 159.2 | 75 | Air | 92 | 82 | 0.99 | 2180 | 4 | 9.17 | 1.01 | 1.10 | 4 |
Hummel 76 HP | 76 | 3400 | 159.2 | 76 | Air | 92 | 82 | 0.99 | 2180 | 4 | 9.17 | 1.00 | 1.09 | 4 |
Hirth 3003 E | 102 | 6500 | 111.7 | 51 | Air | 72 | 64 | 0.99 | 1042 | 4 | 6.74 | 2.00 | 2.97 | 2 |
Hirth F23 LW | 50 | 6500 | 54.8 | 30 | Air | 72 | 64 | 0.99 | 521 | 2 | 6.60 | 1.67 | 2.52 | 2 |
Lycoming 233 | 115 | 2800 | 292.5 | 97 | Air | 111.1 | 98.4 | 1.00 | 3816 | 4 | 9.63 | 1.19 | 1.23 | 4 |
Revmaster R-3000 | 115 | 3400 | 240.9 | 93 | Air | 102.4 | 90 | 1.02 | 2965 | 4 | 10.21 | 1.24 | 1.21 | 4 |
Continental 240 | 125 | 2800 | 317.9 | 109 | Air | 112.8 | 98.6 | 1.03 | 3941 | 4 | 10.14 | 1.15 | 1.13 | 4 |
Continental IO-360ES | 210 | 2800 | 534.1 | 138 | Air | 112.8 | 98.6 | 1.03 | 5912 | 6 | 11.35 | 1.52 | 1.34 | 4 |
GP 2276 | 80 | 3400 | 167.6 | 75 | Air | 94 | 82 | 1.03 | 2276 | 4 | 9.25 | 1.07 | 1.15 | 4 |
Limbach 2000 E0 | 80 | 3400 | 167.6 | 74 | Air | 90 | 78.4 | 1.04 | 1995 | 4 | 10.55 | 1.08 | 1.02 | 4 |
Limbach 2000 EB | 80 | 3400 | 167.6 | 76.5 | Air | 90 | 78.4 | 1.04 | 1995 | 4 | 10.55 | 1.05 | 0.99 | 4 |
MW B22D | 95 | 3400 | 199.0 | 80 | Water | 93 | 81 | 1.04 | 2201 | 4 | 11.36 | 1.19 | 1.05 | 4 |
Sauer 2500 | 94 | 3000 | 223.1 | 77 | Air | 97 | 84 | 1.05 | 2483 | 4 | 11.29 | 1.22 | 1.08 | 4 |
JPX 4TX75 | 82 | 3000 | 194.6 | 78 | Air | 95 | 82 | 1.05 | 2325 | 4 | 10.52 | 1.05 | 1.00 | 4 |
Lycoming AEIO 360 | 200 | 2700 | 527.5 | 136 | Air | 130.2 | 111.1 | 1.08 | 5917 | 4 | 11.20 | 1.47 | 1.31 | 4 |
Lycoming IO-360A | 200 | 2700 | 527.5 | 150 | Air | 130.2 | 111.1 | 1.08 | 5917 | 4 | 11.20 | 1.33 | 1.19 | 4 |
Lycoming O-360A | 180 | 2700 | 474.7 | 132 | Air | 130.2 | 111.1 | 1.08 | 5917 | 4 | 10.08 | 1.36 | 1.35 | 4 |
Limbach 2400 DFi | 100 | 3000 | 237.4 | 76 | Water | 97 | 82 | 1.10 | 2424 | 4 | 12.31 | 1.32 | 1.07 | 4 |
Limbach 2400 DT | 129 | 3000 | 306.2 | 86 | Water | 97 | 82 | 1.10 | 2424 | 4 | 15.87 | 1.50 | 0.94 | 4 |
Limbach 2400 DT.X | 158 | 3000 | 375.0 | 86 | Water | 97 | 82 | 1.10 | 2424 | 4 | 19.44 | 1.84 | 0.94 | 4 |
Limbach 2400 EB | 87 | 3200 | 193.6 | 82 | Air | 97 | 82 | 1.10 | 2424 | 4 | 10.04 | 1.06 | 1.06 | 4 |
Lycoming AEIO 580 | 315 | 2700 | 830.8 | 204 | Air | 135 | 111.1 | 1.16 | 9542 | 6 | 10.94 | 1.54 | 1.41 | 4 |
JPX 4T60 | 65 | 3200 | 144.6 | 72 | Air | 93 | 75.4 | 1.19 | 2049 | 4 | 8.87 | 0.90 | 1.02 | 4 |
GP 1600 | 55 | 3600 | 108.8 | 72 | Air | 85.5 | 69 | 1.21 | 1585 | 4 | 8.63 | 0.76 | 0.89 | 4 |
Hummel 50 HP | 55 | 3600 | 108.8 | 73 | Air | 85.5 | 69 | 1.21 | 1585 | 4 | 8.63 | 0.75 | 0.87 | 4 |
Limbach 1700 E0 | 68 | 3600 | 134.5 | 73 | Air | 88 | 69 | 1.28 | 1679 | 4 | 10.07 | 0.93 | 0.93 | 4 |
Grob 2500 | 95 | 3400 | 199.0 | 95 | Air | 100 | 78 | 1.29 | 2450 | 4 | 10.20 | 1.00 | 0.98 | 4 |
D-Motor LF26 | 91.8 | 3000 | 217.9 | 58 | Water | 103.4 | 80 | 1.31 | 2687 | 4 | 10.19 | 1.58 | 1.55 | 4 |
Jabiru 2200 | 85 | 3300 | 183.4 | 63 | Air | 97.5 | 74 | 1.36 | 2210 | 4 | 10.43 | 1.35 | 1.29 | 4 |
Jabiru 3300 | 120 | 3300 | 258.9 | 83.5 | Air | 97.5 | 74 | 1.36 | 3315 | 6 | 9.82 | 1.44 | 1.46 | 4 |
Franklin 235 | 125 | 2800 | 317.9 | 93 | Air | 117.5 | 88.9 | 1.37 | 3856 | 4 | 10.36 | 1.34 | 1.30 | 4 |
Franklin 350 | 205 | 2800 | 521.4 | 135 | Air | 117.5 | 88.9 | 1.37 | 5784 | 6 | 11.33 | 1.52 | 1.34 | 4 |
Lycoming 320A | 150 | 2700 | 395.6 | 125 | Air | 130.2 | 98.4 | 1.38 | 5240 | 4 | 9.49 | 1.20 | 1.26 | 4 |
Lycoming 320B | 160 | 2700 | 422.0 | 127 | Air | 130.2 | 98.4 | 1.38 | 5240 | 4 | 10.12 | 1.26 | 1.25 | 4 |
GP 1835 | 65 | 3600 | 128.6 | 74 | Air | 92 | 69 | 1.40 | 1835 | 4 | 8.81 | 0.88 | 1.00 | 4 |
Hummel 60 HP | 65 | 3600 | 128.6 | 75 | Air | 92 | 69 | 1.40 | 1835 | 4 | 8.81 | 0.87 | 0.98 | 4 |
Sauer 1800 UL | 68 | 3200 | 151.3 | 63 | Air | 92 | 69 | 1.40 | 1835 | 4 | 10.36 | 1.08 | 1.04 | 4 |
GP 1915 | 69 | 3600 | 136.5 | 74 | Air | 94 | 69 | 1.46 | 1915 | 4 | 8.95 | 0.93 | 1.04 | 4 |
Sauer 1900 UL | 75 | 3200 | 166.9 | 64 | Air | 94 | 69 | 1.46 | 1915 | 4 | 10.95 | 1.17 | 1.07 | 4 |
Rotax 912 ULS | 98.5 | 5800 | 120.9 | 70 | Water | 84 | 61 | 1.49 | 1352 | 4 | 11.24 | 1.41 | 1.25 | 4 |
HKS 700E | 60 | 6200 | 68.9 | 55 | Air | 85 | 60 | 1.58 | 681 | 2 | 12.72 | 1.09 | 0.86 | 4 |
ULPower UL260i | 97 | 3300 | 209.3 | 72.3 | Air | 105.6 | 74 | 1.60 | 2592 | 4 | 10.15 | 1.34 | 1.32 | 4 |
ULPower UL260iS | 107 | 3300 | 230.9 | 72.3 | Air | 105.6 | 74 | 1.60 | 2592 | 4 | 11.19 | 1.48 | 1.32 | 4 |
SMA SR305 | 227 | 2200 | 734.7 | 206 | Air | NA | NA | NA | 5000 | 4 | 18.47 | 1.10 | 0.60 | 4 |
The M14PF is the longest stroked engine and the UL260s are the shortest stroked engines. Interestingly the VW engines are all over the place.
BMEP
From what I have gathered of information, the only meaningful parameter representing how well developed and tuned an engine is, is the Break Mean Effective Pressure, or BMEP. The BMEP is the theoretical integrated pressure needed to turn the engine at a certain power at a certain rpm. Max BMEP occurs at max torque, which typically is at a bit lower rpm than max power. BMEP is not the pressure inside the cylinder, but should be proportional to the physical integrated or mean pressure over the power stroke. Higher BMEP means a better engine in terms of engine output. Top fuel dragsters have an insane BMEP for instance. It also means that BMEP is a good number telling how far "pushed" the engine is in terms of tuning. This is not always a good thing, higher tuned engines tends to last shorter than lower tuned engines. More BMEP also means higher power pulses that the shaft, gear and propeller must sustain.
Turbo or supercharger will increase BMEP, which of course is the whole purpose of a turbo. Comparing naturally aspirated engines with boosted engines may not seem "fair". But power is power, how that power is obtained is uninteresting for an aircraft.
BMEP (Pa) = n * P / (D * N) or when using P = T * N * 2 * Pi
BMEP (Pa) = n * T * 2 * Pi / D
n = revs per power stroke, 2 for 4 stroke and 1 for 2 stroke
P = power in Watt
D = displacement in m^3
N = angular speed in revolutions per second (Hz)
T = torque in Nm
The second relation shows that BMEP is proportional to torque per displacement.
Engine | Max HP | at RPM | T (Nm) | Weight (kg) | Cooling | Bore (mm) | Stroke (mm) | Bore/ stroke | cc | Cyl | BMEP (bar) | HP/kg | X | st |
Hirth F23 LW | 50 | 6500 | 54.8 | 30 | Air | 72 | 64 | 0.99 | 521 | 2 | 6.60 | 1.67 | 2.52 | 2 |
Hirth 3003 E | 102 | 6500 | 111.7 | 51 | Air | 72 | 64 | 0.99 | 1042 | 4 | 6.74 | 2.00 | 2.97 | 2 |
Hirth 3203 E | 65 | 6300 | 73.5 | 40 | Air | 76 | 69 | 0.95 | 626 | 2 | 7.37 | 1.63 | 2.20 | 2 |
Hirth 3701 ES | 100 | 6000 | 118.7 | 54 | Water | 76 | 69 | 0.95 | 939 | 3 | 7.94 | 1.85 | 2.33 | 2 |
GP 1600 | 55 | 3600 | 108.8 | 72 | Air | 85.5 | 69 | 1.21 | 1585 | 4 | 8.63 | 0.76 | 0.89 | 4 |
Hummel 50 HP | 55 | 3600 | 108.8 | 73 | Air | 85.5 | 69 | 1.21 | 1585 | 4 | 8.63 | 0.75 | 0.87 | 4 |
GP 1835 | 65 | 3600 | 128.6 | 74 | Air | 92 | 69 | 1.40 | 1835 | 4 | 8.81 | 0.88 | 1.00 | 4 |
Hummel 60 HP | 65 | 3600 | 128.6 | 75 | Air | 92 | 69 | 1.40 | 1835 | 4 | 8.81 | 0.87 | 0.98 | 4 |
JPX 4T60 | 65 | 3200 | 144.6 | 72 | Air | 93 | 75.4 | 1.19 | 2049 | 4 | 8.87 | 0.90 | 1.02 | 4 |
GP 1915 | 69 | 3600 | 136.5 | 74 | Air | 94 | 69 | 1.46 | 1915 | 4 | 8.95 | 0.93 | 1.04 | 4 |
ULPower UL350i | 118 | 3300 | 254.6 | 78.4 | Air | 105.6 | 100 | 0.88 | 3503 | 4 | 9.13 | 1.51 | 1.65 | 4 |
GP 2180 | 76 | 3400 | 159.2 | 75 | Air | 92 | 82 | 0.99 | 2180 | 4 | 9.17 | 1.01 | 1.10 | 4 |
Hummel 76 HP | 76 | 3400 | 159.2 | 76 | Air | 92 | 82 | 0.99 | 2180 | 4 | 9.17 | 1.00 | 1.09 | 4 |
GP 2276 | 80 | 3400 | 167.6 | 75 | Air | 94 | 82 | 1.03 | 2276 | 4 | 9.25 | 1.07 | 1.15 | 4 |
Hummel 85 HP | 85 | 3400 | 178.0 | 76 | Air | 94 | 86 | 0.94 | 2387 | 4 | 9.37 | 1.12 | 1.19 | 4 |
Continental 200AF | 95 | 2750 | 246.0 | 91 | Air | 103.1 | 98.6 | 0.86 | 3293 | 4 | 9.39 | 1.04 | 1.11 | 4 |
Lycoming 320A | 150 | 2700 | 395.6 | 125 | Air | 130.2 | 98.4 | 1.38 | 5240 | 4 | 9.49 | 1.20 | 1.26 | 4 |
Lycoming 233 | 115 | 2800 | 292.5 | 97 | Air | 111.1 | 98.4 | 1.00 | 3816 | 4 | 9.63 | 1.19 | 1.23 | 4 |
AeroVee 2.1 | 80 | 3400 | 167.6 | 73 | Air | 92 | 82 | 0.99 | 2180 | 4 | 9.66 | 1.10 | 1.13 | 4 |
Rotec R2800 | 110 | 3600 | 217.6 | 102 | Air | 80 | 80 | 0.79 | 2815 | 7 | 9.71 | 1.08 | 1.11 | 4 |
Mikron IIIA | 65 | 2600 | 178.0 | 65 | Air | 90 | 90 | 0.79 | 2290 | 4 | 9.77 | 1.00 | 1.02 | 4 |
Jabiru 3300 | 120 | 3300 | 258.9 | 83.5 | Air | 97.5 | 74 | 1.36 | 3315 | 6 | 9.82 | 1.44 | 1.46 | 4 |
Continental 200DX | 100 | 2750 | 258.9 | 91 | Air | 103.1 | 98.6 | 0.86 | 3293 | 4 | 9.88 | 1.10 | 1.11 | 4 |
Mikron IIIB | 75 | 2750 | 194.2 | 69 | Air | 90 | 96 | 0.69 | 2443 | 4 | 9.99 | 1.09 | 1.09 | 4 |
Limbach 2400 EB | 87 | 3200 | 193.6 | 82 | Air | 97 | 82 | 1.10 | 2424 | 4 | 10.04 | 1.06 | 1.06 | 4 |
ULPower UL350iS | 130 | 3300 | 280.5 | 78.4 | Air | 105.6 | 100 | 0.88 | 3503 | 4 | 10.06 | 1.66 | 1.65 | 4 |
Limbach 1700 E0 | 68 | 3600 | 134.5 | 73 | Air | 88 | 69 | 1.28 | 1679 | 4 | 10.07 | 0.93 | 0.93 | 4 |
Lycoming O-360A | 180 | 2700 | 474.7 | 132 | Air | 130.2 | 111.1 | 1.08 | 5917 | 4 | 10.08 | 1.36 | 1.35 | 4 |
Lycoming 320B | 160 | 2700 | 422.0 | 127 | Air | 130.2 | 98.4 | 1.38 | 5240 | 4 | 10.12 | 1.26 | 1.25 | 4 |
Continental 240 | 125 | 2800 | 317.9 | 109 | Air | 112.8 | 98.6 | 1.03 | 3941 | 4 | 10.14 | 1.15 | 1.13 | 4 |
ULPower UL260i | 97 | 3300 | 209.3 | 72.3 | Air | 105.6 | 74 | 1.60 | 2592 | 4 | 10.15 | 1.34 | 1.32 | 4 |
D-Motor LF26 | 91.8 | 3000 | 217.9 | 58 | Water | 103.4 | 80 | 1.31 | 2687 | 4 | 10.19 | 1.58 | 1.55 | 4 |
Revmaster R-2300 | 85 | 3200 | 189.1 | 77 | Air | 94 | 84 | 0.98 | 2332 | 4 | 10.19 | 1.10 | 1.08 | 4 |
Grob 2500 | 95 | 3400 | 199.0 | 95 | Air | 100 | 78 | 1.29 | 2450 | 4 | 10.20 | 1.00 | 0.98 | 4 |
Revmaster R-3000 | 115 | 3400 | 240.9 | 93 | Air | 102.4 | 90 | 1.02 | 2965 | 4 | 10.21 | 1.24 | 1.21 | 4 |
Verner 133MK | 84 | 5500 | 108.8 | 64.9 | Air | 97 | 90 | 0.91 | 1330 | 2 | 10.27 | 1.29 | 1.26 | 4 |
Rotec R2800 | 150 | 3600 | 296.7 | 125 | Air | 80 | 80 | 0.79 | 3619 | 9 | 10.30 | 1.20 | 1.16 | 4 |
Franklin 235 | 125 | 2800 | 317.9 | 93 | Air | 117.5 | 88.9 | 1.37 | 3856 | 4 | 10.36 | 1.34 | 1.30 | 4 |
Sauer 1800 UL | 68 | 3200 | 151.3 | 63 | Air | 92 | 69 | 1.40 | 1835 | 4 | 10.36 | 1.08 | 1.04 | 4 |
Verner 7H | 110 | 2300 | 340.6 | 82 | Air | 94 | 85 | 0.96 | 4129 | 7 | 10.36 | 1.34 | 1.29 | 4 |
Jabiru 2200 | 85 | 3300 | 183.4 | 63 | Air | 97.5 | 74 | 1.36 | 2210 | 4 | 10.43 | 1.35 | 1.29 | 4 |
JPX 4TX75 | 82 | 3000 | 194.6 | 78 | Air | 95 | 82 | 1.05 | 2325 | 4 | 10.52 | 1.05 | 1.00 | 4 |
Limbach 2000 E0 | 80 | 3400 | 167.6 | 74 | Air | 90 | 78.4 | 1.04 | 1995 | 4 | 10.55 | 1.08 | 1.02 | 4 |
Limbach 2000 EB | 80 | 3400 | 167.6 | 76.5 | Air | 90 | 78.4 | 1.04 | 1995 | 4 | 10.55 | 1.05 | 0.99 | 4 |
Motorav 2.6 R | 90 | 2900 | 221.0 | 86 | Air | 94 | 94 | 0.79 | 2609 | 4 | 10.64 | 1.05 | 0.98 | 4 |
Motorav 2.4 R | 85 | 2900 | 208.7 | 85 | Air | 94 | 88 | 0.90 | 2443 | 4 | 10.74 | 1.00 | 0.93 | 4 |
JPX 4TX90 | 90 | 3000 | 213.6 | 74 | Air | 95 | 88 | 0.92 | 2495 | 4 | 10.76 | 1.22 | 1.13 | 4 |
Motorav 2.8 R | 100 | 2900 | 245.5 | 84 | Air | 98 | 94 | 0.85 | 2836 | 4 | 10.88 | 1.19 | 1.09 | 4 |
Lycoming AEIO 580 | 315 | 2700 | 830.8 | 204 | Air | 135 | 111.1 | 1.16 | 9542 | 6 | 10.94 | 1.54 | 1.41 | 4 |
Sauer 1900 UL | 75 | 3200 | 166.9 | 64 | Air | 94 | 69 | 1.46 | 1915 | 4 | 10.95 | 1.17 | 1.07 | 4 |
ULPower UL260iS | 107 | 3300 | 230.9 | 72.3 | Air | 105.6 | 74 | 1.60 | 2592 | 4 | 11.19 | 1.48 | 1.32 | 4 |
Lycoming AEIO 360 | 200 | 2700 | 527.5 | 136 | Air | 130.2 | 111.1 | 1.08 | 5917 | 4 | 11.20 | 1.47 | 1.31 | 4 |
Lycoming IO-360A | 200 | 2700 | 527.5 | 150 | Air | 130.2 | 111.1 | 1.08 | 5917 | 4 | 11.20 | 1.33 | 1.19 | 4 |
Rotax 912 ULS | 98.5 | 5800 | 120.9 | 70 | Water | 84 | 61 | 1.49 | 1352 | 4 | 11.24 | 1.41 | 1.25 | 4 |
Sauer 2500 | 94 | 3000 | 223.1 | 77 | Air | 97 | 84 | 1.05 | 2483 | 4 | 11.29 | 1.22 | 1.08 | 4 |
Franklin 350 | 205 | 2800 | 521.4 | 135 | Air | 117.5 | 88.9 | 1.37 | 5784 | 6 | 11.33 | 1.52 | 1.34 | 4 |
Sauer 2200 UL | 85 | 3000 | 201.8 | 66 | Air | 92 | 84 | 0.94 | 2234 | 4 | 11.35 | 1.29 | 1.13 | 4 |
Continental IO-360ES | 210 | 2800 | 534.1 | 138 | Air | 112.8 | 98.6 | 1.03 | 5912 | 6 | 11.35 | 1.52 | 1.34 | 4 |
MW B22D | 95 | 3400 | 199.0 | 80 | Water | 93 | 81 | 1.04 | 2201 | 4 | 11.36 | 1.19 | 1.05 | 4 |
Sauer 2400 UL Al | 90 | 3000 | 213.6 | 75 | Air | 94 | 84 | 0.98 | 2332 | 4 | 11.51 | 1.20 | 1.04 | 4 |
Sauer 2400 UL Mg | 90 | 3000 | 213.6 | 68 | Air | 94 | 84 | 0.98 | 2332 | 4 | 11.51 | 1.32 | 1.15 | 4 |
Sauer 2700 UL | 105 | 3000 | 249.2 | 75 | Air | 97 | 90 | 0.91 | 2660 | 4 | 11.77 | 1.40 | 1.19 | 4 |
AeroVee 2.1 T | 100 | 3400 | 209.4 | 80 | Air | 92 | 82 | 0.99 | 2180 | 4 | 12.07 | 1.25 | 1.04 | 4 |
Vedeneyev M14PF | 400 | 2900 | 982.2 | 214 | Air | 105 | 130 | 0.51 | 10131 | 9 | 12.18 | 1.87 | 1.53 | 4 |
Limbach 2400 DFi | 100 | 3000 | 237.4 | 76 | Water | 97 | 82 | 1.10 | 2424 | 4 | 12.31 | 1.32 | 1.07 | 4 |
HKS 700E | 60 | 6200 | 68.9 | 55 | Air | 85 | 60 | 1.58 | 681 | 2 | 12.72 | 1.09 | 0.86 | 4 |
Sauer 2100 ULT | 110 | 3000 | 261.1 | 76 | Air | 90.5 | 84 | 0.91 | 2161 | 4 | 15.18 | 1.45 | 0.95 | 4 |
Centurion 2.0 | 133 | 3890 | 243.5 | 134 | Water | 83 | 92 | 0.64 | 1991 | 4 | 15.37 | 0.99 | 0.65 | 4 |
Limbach 2400 DT | 129 | 3000 | 306.2 | 86 | Water | 97 | 82 | 1.10 | 2424 | 4 | 15.87 | 1.50 | 0.94 | 4 |
DB 605 | 1800 | 2800 | 4577.7 | 756 | Water | 154 | 160 | 0.73 | 35763 | 12 | 16.09 | 2.38 | 1.48 | 4 |
Jumo 213E | 2050 | 3250 | 4491.7 | 940 | Water | 150 | 165 | 0.65 | 34989 | 12 | 16.13 | 2.18 | 1.35 | 4 |
RR Merlin 61 | 1580 | 3000 | 3750.3 | 744 | Water | 137 | 152 | 0.64 | 26888 | 12 | 17.53 | 2.12 | 1.21 | 4 |
SMA SR305 | 227 | 2200 | 734.7 | 206 | Air | NA | NA | NA | 5000 | 4 | 18.47 | 1.10 | 0.60 | 4 |
Limbach 2400 DT.X | 158 | 3000 | 375.0 | 86 | Water | 97 | 82 | 1.10 | 2424 | 4 | 19.44 | 1.84 | 0.94 | 4 |
Austro AE300 | 168 | 3880 | 308.3 | 185 | Water | 83 | 92 | 0.64 | 1991 | 4 | 19.46 | 0.91 | 0.47 | 4 |
RR Griffon 65 | 2220 | 2750 | 5748.5 | 900 | Water | 152.5 | 167.6 | 0.65 | 36735 | 12 | 19.66 | 2.47 | 1.25 | 4 |
P&W R-2800 32 | 2850 | 2700 | 7516.5 | 1073 | Air | 146.05 | 152.4 | 0.72 | 45957 | 18 | 20.55 | 2.66 | 1.29 | 4 |
All the two stroke engines have low BMEP. The reason for this is they don't need to have all that much pressure because they have double the power pulses per revs compared with a 4 stroke. At the other end we find the RR Griffon and the P&W R-2800. Also here the VW engines are all over the place, but now there is a clear differentiation between the GP and Hummel engines in the lower end and the Sauer and Limbachs in the higher end. The AeroVee and Revmaster is in the middle somewhere. The AeroVee turbo, rumored to have 100 HP for take off and 80 HP continuous, have less BMEP than a comparable naturally aspirated Limbach 2400 DFi. Suggesting the turbo boost is very low. Also interesting is the ULPower UL350i which sits there at the lower end of the scale along the Hummels and GPs. Sadly the specs for the 2 stroke diesels, the Wilksch WAM and DeltaHawk is nowhere to be found, they would be interesting to see in there.
Engines and stuff part 2
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